I’m doing magnesium and it’s cofactors

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I have severe fatigue. I’m doing magnesium and it’s cofactors. I have trouble falling asleep at night and wake unrefreshed. I have hashimotos. I am also taking iodine in the morning. No doctor seems to be able to assist me in relieving the fatigue. I take a bunch of supplements and follow the AIP. What could I be missing?

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Alyssa 2 years 0 Answers 654 views 0

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  1. are your Free T3 levels optimal?

  2. Are you still living in mold? That'll make you really fatigued….

  3. What type of iodine do you take. I tried taking kelp but it made me itch like crazy with hives.

  4. Heavy metal toxicity?

  5. I took iodine and it exacerbated my Hashimoto. Iodine is good for low thyroid, but with Hashis being an autoimmune disease it's not necessarily helped by iodine. I also researched this as my massive fatigue and low thyroid issues kept getting worse no matter the dose of iodine. My numbers got better after I stopped the iodine.

  6. I would try the adrenal cocktail.

  7. Cut back on iodine?

  8. I would get a full iron panel and see how well you're absorbing the ndt

  9. Try also looking into supplementing w t3 as well

  10. Just about every lay person on these kinds of forums will tell you that if you have a low thyroid you HAVE TO supplement with a lot of iodine because that's FOR SURE your problem. If iodine was the cure for Hashis, do you really think so many of us would still be suffering the debilitating effects of Hashis? Like I said above, Hashis is an autoimmune disease. Iodine can worsen it. And people should actually always be checked for an iodine deficiency before supplementing with it.

  11. Elimination diet is key to finding food triggers for Hashimotos. I just finished it and got my antibodies to 0! Now the tedious task of reintroducing.

  12. Also found mu CoQ10 was very low which is key to energy.

  13. Potassium and sodium?

  14. Do the testing recommend by this group then you won't be guessing

  15. Aip/ low histamine

  16. Alyssa I'm in the same boat. I'm over this damn fatigue, and I'm damn tired of steroids being thrown my way.. My gut is not liking naproxen. I'm starting this regimine soon… I am seriously thinking this is my next step.

  17. The remediation is done in such a way to not spread mold around.

  18. take methylcobalamin

  19. Yes, MTHFR status…

  20. Underlying gut, viral or bacterial infections

  21. My favorites for fatigue are d ribose and acetyl l carnitine. They really help the mitochondria.

  22. Following

  23. It's probably adrenal fatigue as you have Hashimoto's. I add the ayervedic herb and adaptogen Ashwagandha powder to my morning smoothies and this has given me luck life back. You need to keep taking it for a few months. You will notice a difference. No more falling asleep during the day for me!!

  24. Make sure you don't take Mag too late in the day. It can cause insomnia for many

  25. Have you tested for Lyme?

  26. Ceruloplasim

  27. I agree w adrenal/cortisol issues. I started taking a supp called Cortisolv but it may have ashwaganda. You can only get it thru a ND but it helped me a lot. I also always take Mg w potassium. Never alone. Also B12…I feel no fatigue at all when I take B12. I feel for you bc every body is different as evidenced by all the above responses. Good luck. I also take iodine but don't have hashis and feel great w it.

  28. You said you are taking co-factors but are you taking the adrenal cocktail? Sorry if I missed where you said you were. That definitely helped my fatigue. Good luck!

  29. Lovin' all this info!

  30. I had this and my son was very sick from birth as well. Diet and supplements only helped a little. Then we found mold in our house. Still working on remediation.

  31. I have just read that it is better to take iodine at night rather than the morning

  32. thanks for this post ..im so fed up with fatigue stealing my life …great info shared ..i do alot of what is mention and will lok into more from here

  33. This is an odd one but do you happen to be hypermobile or flexible? Do you have any pain anywhere?

  34. This is Morley Robbins' FB group. Why don't we stop and take a moment to research what Morley has to say?

    Morley Robbins-"Hashimotos is thyroid dysfunction exacerbated by runaway Iron-induced oxidative stress!"

    Get the recommended copper, zinc, ceruloplasmin, magnesium, iron panel testing done and the HTMA/consult with Morley Robbins. http://requestatest.com/mag-zinc-copper-panel-with-iron-panel-testing

    Implement the full Magnesium protocol with the Cofactors and the Adrenal Cocktail to balance electrolytes. (See the Beginner's Guide at the top of this page.)

    Donate Whole Blood to reduce iron burden in the liver. When the liver is congested with iron, then it BLOCKS the conversion of T4 >T3. Most of us are all LOADED up to our EYEBALLS with iron from eating iron fortified foods our entire lives, including: iron fortified vitamins, iron pills, iron fortified baby formula, iron fortified baby cereal, etc. Since 1941, the U.S. government has mandated that inorganic iron filings be added to our flour and cornmeal. Canada, U.K. and Singapore also add iron filings to the flour. This iron is in breakfast cereals, pastas, tortillas, breads, bagels, rolls, hamburger and hot dog buns, cookies, cakes, pancakes, muffins, cakes, fast foods, etc.

    The majority of us are NOT anemic; we have iron DYSREGULATION.

    How do we correct iron dysregulation? STOP eating iron fortified foods, STOP taking iron supplements and infusions, and INCREASE CERULOPLASMIN which is REQUIRED to regulate iron and copper!! Watch Morley's recent YouTube interview with Wendy Myers about Iron DYSREGULATION.

  35. Genetic testing was the missing piece for me. I highly recommend.

  36. My hunch is that your heart is pumping blood at the consistency of crude oil as apposed to what it should be pumping which is the consistency of red wine. This will make you constantly fatigued and you will certainly wake up not feeling rested because although you may have slept all night, your heart was working hard to keep things moving. And you wake up feeling like you've played tennis all night. This issue is cased by high blood ammonia which in turn is caused by poor protein digestion. This is a very common problem that I see with many of my clients – but hardly anyone I know is looking at this.

    Another common marker for this issue is when you lay your head down on your pillow at night you can often feel and hear the blood pulsing through your ears against the pillows. Thick blood will always cause this.

    Let me know if this makes sense to you and I will give you some direction on what to do about it. 🙂

  37. Mark Hathaway,,iAminterested,TellMeMore

  38. Very interesting to myself also, having been diagnosed with Lyme. I was trying to read about the ammonia test but my internet is s l o w. Who knows? Maybe another piece of the puzzle.

  39. You could also try juicing. I have MS and Sjogrens and after watching the Netflix show, "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead

  40. Adrenals go hand in hand with the thyroid. Adrenal support is essential. Also get Reverse T3 tested to check how well your T4 is converting into T3 or whether its going into Reverse T3.

    The thyroid needs good progesterone levels for thyroid hormone conversion too. If adrenals are working harder then progesterone depletes.

    With iodine it's essential to follow the actual iodine protocol. You need good RBC magnesium & selenium before supplementing with iodine & my thyroid dr advised me to take the iodine with selenium at night as minerals absorb better then.

    If I'm not supporting adrenals with adrenal cocktail daily, I'd only be able to take 200mg of magnesium, otherwise I'd be wired but tired at bed time & I'd wake during the night & it would take me 2 or more hours to fall asleep. As soon as I'd stop the magnesium my sleep would improve. Same with vit D, it also affected my adrenals. So sometimes it's the supps we use which can affect how we feel, so adrenal support is an absolute must.

  41. Get your adrenal function checked and your ferritin levels – if those are ok then your thyroid level may still not be optimal

  42. Julia, I have hashi also!

  43. High levels of Unbound iron in the body makes the blood thick (viscous). Get the complete iron panel done, HTMA/consult, health history/symptoms and donate blood blood if needed. Avoid iron fortified foods. Follow the graphic in the Files that explains how to reduce iron.

    My husband has had two mini strokes, has been hospitalized twice with DVT and pulmonary embolisms. The way to thin the blood is with magnesium and by reducing the iron burden. The excess unbound iron distorts the fibrin and causes it to form dense matting around the red blood cells. The dense matting of the fibrin around the red blood cells causes the red blood cells to become elongated and twisted and then they are not able to pass easily through the tiny capillaries. The misshapen red blood cells are more likely to clump together and clot. This is also seen in hemochromatosis patients and Alzheimer patients. The GREAT news in the research study was that after the unbound iron was chelated out of the blood, then the red blood cells went back to their original shape!!!!!! Morley Robbins posted an article all about this. I will try to find it and post the link. If you have thick blood, reduce your iron burden and also take Serrapeptase enzyme to help dissolve clots and plaque. Don't forget that the magnesium and cofactors protocol is also a key player because magnesium is a natural blood thinner.

    We also need to remember that Morley has told us that excess unbound iron BURNS through our potassium and magnesium very quickly. We require magnesium for ATP/energy and we need magnesium so that we can hang on to our potassium. Potassium, magnesium, and sodium are required for our adrenals and thyroid. When we don't have those minerals in adequate amounts, nor in the proper ratios, then the adrenals are not going to function properly and we are going to be very fatigued! We have to get iron dysregulation under control if we want to increase our magnesium and potassium levels and be able to hang on to those minerals longer.

    Here is the link to the article that Morley Robbins posted for us; the entire manuscript is fantastic and the section discussing the fibrin forming dense matting around the red blood cells is under the following heading: "Some morphological and related readouts of haematological changes associated with inflammatory diseases"
    http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2014/mt/c3mt00347g

  44. Valerie Engh I take Serrapetase for a different reason, however it is my understanding that Nattokinase might be better, it is a fibrinolytic, whereas, serrapetase is a protolytic—-check with the company though. I know several people that have had Pulmonary Emboli and DVTS and took Nattokinase since it is a fibrinolytic–but check it out–it's been awhile since I did the research. 🙂 Can you tell me the Iron panel tests, can't find them in the files—I think there were 4 things to test–had my Ferritin done 1 1/2 yrs ago when I became ill, it was 857, now down to 340, but new PCP doesn't want to test it, Thank you!

  45. I was getting blood clots, superficial ones in my thighs but bad and painful enough to keep me from working. I never got tested thoroughly enough to know the cause. I know that there is a study that links mercury to blood clots. I had my amalgams replaced this past January and went 30 days at that time without the enzymes. I have also been chelating mercury since then. I had periods of fatigue in the beginning of chelation but almost never experience fatigue anymore even when on a chelation round. I also have leg cramps much less often now than previously. Mercury blocks and can affect the absorbance of other minerals including magnesium.

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